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Trackmaster Flip Face Percy Theory
#1
Okay so I was talking with @JunctionMalfunk on Twitter about Flip Face Percy and he said "I always wondered if they reused the tooling of the flip face Percy face for the Remote Control Percy. So maybe the flip face Percy was supposed to have a tired out face?" This then led to me getting my RC Percy, and the shape, printing, and decals are really similar to that of the Flip Face Percy. So I'm thinking that the RC Percy is a retool of the Flip Face Percy. 

Some of the similarities are shown in the photos here:
[Image: rcflipface.png] I've circled out the similar parts on both of them.
[Image: flipfaceisrc.png]
[Image: flipfaceprototypes.jpg]

The printing is really similar on both items and both have similar decals. There's also a large enough gap for a flip face. The moulds are also similar, as shown with the sandboxes/toolboxes on the Percy's. The color is also relatively similar on both of the items. The only real big difference mould-wise that's noticeable is the front not having a lower area for a flip face feature along with the lever area being way smaller.

If you check the planned release year of the Flip Face Percy set and the release year of the RC Percy, Flip Face was meant to release in 2007 and the RC was released in 2008 according to the Thomas Motorized Wiki.
[Image: icecreamfactorypr.png]
[Image: rcpercyrd.png]
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#2
Good observations Ffar.
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#3
Alot of credit to @JunctionMalfunk, we were discussing it earlier and found out it RC Percy is most likely a retooling of Flip-Face Percy.
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#4
I must be honest...I didn't even know there was a Flip Face Percy Blush
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#5
He was a prototype. They were going to make a flip face Gordon too. I remember being in stores and pointing out the prototype image of the three flip face engines on the boxes of items in the store. Unfortunately only Toby was released as a flip face variant.

This is the photo I'm talking about:
[Image: ED4VjFuXYAE_JUf.jpg]

You can even see that the Gordon doesn't even have tender decals
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#6
I remember seeing a thread on here somewhere that said some Flip Face Percy's might've slipped out. They most likely did make it to production based on the image of the set, but they are either in a warehouse, landfill, storage, or gone.
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#7
Thanks Thara, now I know Smile
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#8
Here's something interesting - it seems the flip face Percy promo was edited for use in the HiT Toys Percy's Day at the Farm set, and Mattel reused it for their release of the set
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HiT instructions

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#9
Now that is very interesting
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#10
Could it be possible at one point Hit was considering including the Flip-Face Percy in this set?
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#11
it's always possible
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#12
While the HiT Flip Face Percy never got an official release, there just happens to be a well made custom solution! It was made from a Japanese TOMY Percy, giving him the extra detail he would've had. There's no battery car and he only has one (revolving) switch for the face, but it otherwise works the same way. For the only custom Flip Face engine I've seen, the execution is remarkable. Made by garigarigari.





There's also another one with a Flip Face James face and smokebox (and a battery truck), but the only video I found was a "making of" without footage.
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#13
@Duck

This is interesting, thanks for sharing your discovery.

@LaG

Thanks for that video, it is a brilliant custom and a quick look at how they did it.
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#14
Time to revive this thread with a theory:
The reason no FF percys ever surfaced may mean that almost all were all retooled.
Also the RC percy is the only rc engine to have a different facial expression other than happy. The tired face may have been FF percy's other face.

[Image: Trackmaster-Thomas-Friends-R-C-Percy-rem...rolled.jpg]

This can be proved as this video shows that RC percy has an unused flip face mechanism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJ_8dtc9Ok


However there is evidence against my theory: there are 2 dots on either side of Percy's leaf spring. On the FF percy they are coloured in, whilst the RC percy doesn't have them coloured in. It's really hard to see on the first image but they are indeed coloured.
[Image: ffpercyspring.jpg]

[Image: trackmaster-c-percy-sounds-thomas-1-7d59...e5027d.jpg]

But here is where things get interesting:
A youtuber by the name of Trainboy 33 has a percy shell that some will say is an RC percy shell.
BUT it has the larger switch AND the 2 dots coloured in, just like FF percy. The chassis is from a standard percy.


[Image: realffpercy1.png]
[Image: realffpercyimage2.png]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HBMOwfvAa4
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#15
nah tb33's is fake, switch hole is doctored

that being said though its very likely that rc percy is ff percy retooled
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