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Strange Wagons
#16
Very nice!Are you going to make these fit on a short truck-like chassis or on a longer coach chassis, as in the pictures they do look pretty long
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The two-tank version is sized to fit directly onto a standard mail car / cattle wagon chassis that's had its central pillar trimmed off. The three-tank version is intended to fit directly onto a standard Annie/Clarabel chassis but the tanks are slightly smaller. All very much a work in progress at the moment. Other options in the pipeline.
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#18
I was just about to offer to have a go at designing one of these for you Chris, but I see you already done it :)

If you need test prints ping me :)

Meanwhile I did a quick search on eBay and it threw up some hornby wagons that are similar, I know they used to make a 2 chamber one but there's a few options out there it seems. There are even a couple of sellers offering just the superstructure as opposed to full wagons for a few quid, see below;

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364113468978?...R8CnnO64YQ

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185705883261?...R8jzse64YQ

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143326694041?...R9jL4e64YQ

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322812571884?...R9jL4e64YQ
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#19
Can't wait to see the finished project 👍
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#20
Hmm.  "Finished" and "project" are two words that don't often get used together around here!  Started again from scratch yesterday using higher resolution shape elements, i.e. curved surfaces with less obvious planar divisions.

I knew about the Prestwin wagons from Airfix, Dapol, Hornby, etc, but that French one is new to me, and the tanks do look rather similar in shape. Investigation into that one has opened up a whole new picture with the discovery of another amazing website wagons-europe.net which includes, among many others, this 3-tank French version:

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#21
LOL...so in around there....are projects not finished? 😒
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#22
New in 2022, Roco HO gauge, £200 / US$240 for the set of three:

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#23
Roco do make some beautiful wagons and loco's, albeit usually European Outline and HO gauge so not so interesting to the average UK modeller. But I love the attention to detail and build quality, I've got some (not of those) and passenger carriages in my collection as well as some of their diesel/electric loco's, the latter are incredibly smooth runners and again have stunning build quality. The only downside is the cost is usually on the higher side, but I guess you get what you pay for. One of my favourite ranges they used to have (not seen any around for a while) were the military themed flat wagons with tanks and other vehicle loads. Roco used to have a range of military models called 'minitanks' as well so the train wagons were a natural extension to that range.
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#24
I wonder if the yellow colour of some of the wagons pictures earlier in the thread has to do with the ownership by Lafarge of a large number of European cement companies?

Saying this because Blue Circle (formerly one of the biggest cement operations in the world) was bought by Lafarge, and were known for packaging their product in yellow sacks, as well as, you guessed it, yellow cement wagons or vans (see picture of a Hornby model representing an early example, and a Lima that resembles the OP wagons more closely) :)

Since Lafarge bought the operations, the Blue Circle name does occasionally crop up, but mostly just on cement bags in the UK and occasionally on rail stock that hasn't been updated yet, but Lafarge seems to have kept the familiar yellow colour scheme as a connection to their past.

Here in the UK, cement by rail is still a very common cargo, and we even have a railway cement terminal in Central London, just outside St Pancras station in London, one of the last remaining goods terminals left in the central city, most being in the suburbs or edge of the city now.

My understanding is that it comes to the plant as powder in the tanker wagons, then gets transferred to powder silos, where it then sits until being dispensed directly into cement trucks along with water to create the final ready-mix product.

It's not the only site with a similar setup in the UK, and there used to be many more of them in smaller towns from when BR ran shorter 'wagonload' consists prior to their breakup, as near to where I was living until recently is a very small local cement terminal, built by Blue Circle's competitor RMC (and now run by RMC successor CEMEX) located alongside what was then my local railway to London.

This one had clearly been designed with wagonload trains in mind, as there was a semi-abandoned unloading bay with direct access to the railway (presumably a excavator or similar would have been used to unload the wagons into the silos, or possibly manual transfer of sacks of cement powder would have taken place), now used as a Network Rail (rail infrastructure owner in the UK) access point, accessed by driving through the cement terminal, which is still there, but now loaded and unloaded by road only.

Fun aside, cement & aggregate traffic was what led to the development of the ubiquitous Class 59 & 66 locomotives, which are by and large the most common freight diesels (especially the 66) in the UK, developed for Hanson Trust (now Hanson), another major player in the British cement industry.

The original Class 59s were the first order of locomotives for operation over the BR network by a private company since BR's formation (at the time, Hanson owned and provided the locos, while BR provided train crew), but it basically paved the way for private freight operation on BR, which would turn out to be the future of British railfreight anyway, with or without BR.

At one point, there were around 5 major British players in aggregates/cement, those being Blue Circle, Tarmac, Hanson Trust, Aggregate Industries and RMC, but of those, Blue Circle and Tarmac are now part of Lafarge, RMC became CEMEX, while Hanson and Aggregate Industries remained intact.

All of these either operated their own trains, or had contracts to move cement by rail with either BR, or the resultant freight operators post-BR, which remains the case today with their successors.

Anyways, enough TL:DR, but hey, I guess a railway forum is a good place for railway pedantry, am I right?

Still, guess you guys now know what logos/colours to add for that authentic British cement wagon look if you make a Plarail version lol

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#25
Hey Chris,

If you want a 'weird' wagon, how about this one as currently being worked on by Rails of Sheffield for OO gauge;

https://railsofsheffield.com/search?q=to...ce=Klaviyo
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