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Thomas 2021 Reboot
(10-25-2021, 02:53 PM)ThomasSirHandel Wrote:  The only modern show that really seems to last in kids is Paw Patrol.

Paw partrol is what thomas is being compared to by people today, which is ridiculous as paw patrol came out in 2013, whilst the railway series came out 68 years earlier in 1945.
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Re-released Knapford Station... As far as I can tell, everything is the same..[Image: Knapford2.jpg]
...except Thomas, of course! :D

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Probaby bye bye to the CGI version
Making Customs, Filming Videos and looking for the purest engines. That's how I roll here on Blue Plastic Tracks.

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(10-24-2021, 08:37 PM)Mister No Wrote: Why not both? :)

Only because this was placed in the general board. Even though Thomas is owned by a toy company, my opinion is that toys are not the show. The toys are an optional part of getting into Thomas and are only available for a selected period while the whole show is going to be around as long as productions of DVDs continue but more likely through digital downloads and the official YouTube channels.

I haven't seen any of the reboot yet, but I will when it's on TV. This might be the first Thomas thing I'm not very keen for at all but I don't want to stop watching and I don't think I could. I expect it will get the two series it was commissioned for and then it may move on to another TV series which may bring a few elements of the All Engines Go style. I doubt it will go back to the original series style but I won't completely rule not seeing something like it for anniversaries.
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AEG Motorized Metalic 4-Pack:

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AEG Push-alongs:

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Motorized Carly is coming! :)

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Notice the painted buffers! Only AEG motorized Diesel and Push-alongs have painted buffers, and now Carly.

The holder of her hook seems as if it can be extended... that would be a cool feature! I wonder what's the purpose of that specialized piece of rolling stock she's pulling? Transporting Sandy?
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Is it strange that the piece of rolling stock Carly is pulling doesn't have cogged wheels? I thought all of the cars rolling on Trackmaster II were coming with them lately?
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They were actually pretty inconsistent when it comes to cogged wheels on TM2. Some rolling stock has cogged wheels, some doesn't. The tender wheels are not cogged, not even the new AEG James & Gordon will have cogged wheels on their tenders. At the same time, the small engines sold with 1 truck have cogged wheels on their trucks.

Once I was wondering why they put these toothed wheels on rolling stock, and not just on driving wheels of the engines, but now I realized that these wheels are really useful on the somewhat problematic track elements like the steep curved slope (some lighter wagons without cogged wheels tend to derail while descending such slopes), especially when that curved slope is followed by another curved slope, and you need two slopes - curved or straight - to reach the appropriate height for the bridge under which you can place an operational track:

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It's better that the curved slope is not immediately followed by another one, so I placed a normal curved track between them. Note that the barrel delivering specialized truck from TM2 "Cassia Crane & Cargo Set" for some reason also doesn't have cogged wheels, and that makes it unstable on some elements (curved slopes, "Head-to-Head-Crossing", etc.)

So yes, it's strange that Carly's wagon doesn't have cogged wheels, and we still don't know what the wagon is for. I don't think that she suppose to pull just that wagon; it looks like something should be placed on it. If that something is push along Sandy, then that wagon will be pretty heavy, and could derail on a steep curved slope without the cogged wheels... I thought they would make all the AEG rolling stock with cogged wheels. They are ugly, but you can hardly see them when the vehicle is placed on the tracks. They greatly contribute to the general stability of the vehicle, and prevent derailments on problematic track elements.
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The non-cogged wheels could really be unreliable on the steep slopes and some other track elements. It seems Fisher-Price learned that lesson. In the old "3 in 1 package pickup set" the coaches (Annie & Clarabel) didn't have cogged wheels:

[Image: thomas-friends-package-pickup-old.jpg]

...but in the same, rebooted set - they do have them:

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In many YouTube videos, it can be seen that the coaches - especially with the triggering car attached to them - often derail coming down the double slope from the bridge. Putting cogged wheels on the coaches should deal with that problem. (Although it's a mystery to me why they used smaller Annie and Clarabel versions in the new AEG set; they should put newer versions of these coaches in that set, or even mould new ones, since in the TV show it can be seen that Annie & Clarabel are now much larger, larger than Thomas, and that is not what we get in that set).

It should also be noted that Annie & Clarabel, as in the TV show, lost their names on the sides of the carriages, which have now been replaced by some ornaments or whatever. If they were already paying attention to such details, how did they make a mistake regarding the size of the carriages? :D

[Image: Thomas-Annie-Clarabel.png]

The size of the coaches from the 3 in 1 package pickup set is just about right for the use with the push along engines, not motorized engines! :)


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Three new push along sets (?)

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This is my opinion

The current winner for worst T&F episode is Up up and away.
But I once had a thought: what would be the worst thomas episode imaginable? The worst thomas episode imaginable would be:
-A miller written,
-bwba style
-2d episode.
Those 3 things the fandom hates the most. So the worst episode would be all 3 of those things

And guess what? They literally made an episode with those 3 awful elements
"Nia's balloon blunder" is a reboot episode (2d element)  about Nia (bwba element) failing a simple task of delivering a balloon (miller-esque element) as it flies of with her.

The irony is hilarious!
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(10-26-2021, 04:39 AM)GreatGordonFan Wrote:
(10-25-2021, 02:53 PM)ThomasSirHandel Wrote:  The only modern show that really seems to last in kids is Paw Patrol.

Paw partrol is what thomas is being compared to by people today, which is ridiculous as paw patrol came out in 2013, whilst the railway series came out 68 years earlier in 1945.



I mean, while I won't pretend Paw Patrol has as much of the heritage as Thomas, having now also seen the Paw Patrol movie [my freind's 'revenge' for me dragging him to Race for The Sodor Cup], Paw Patrol actually at least seems to respect it's audience and fanbase?

I mean, for one thing, the movie was actually a decent movie; Sure, it's a kid's tie-in flick, and so you only expect so much from something like that, and yet they actually made a movie that's not just tolerable, but actually good!

Good jokes, an actual plot with consequences risks and goals with a good message for the kids, cool machines, really nice animation, voice acting that isn't ear-gratingly awful, seriously i'm almost 23 and here I am singing the virtues of Paw Patrol lmao  :D

But for real, one thing me and my freind agreed on afterwards; Paw Patrol actually went way harder than they could have, they could have just done an AEG and made the movie a 60 minute episode, and not given a toss, but no, they respected their audience, and the adults present, and made something good!  

Of course, it remains to be seen if it'll have the same longevity as Thomas, that is true, but honestly, if they keep making stuff as good as this, while AEG is the new benchmark going forward for Thomas, then I think Paw Patrol is gonna keep getting better - And yeah, i'm a lifelong Thomas fan, saying this with a somewhat heavy heart really since i've basically seen the TV franchise get metaphorically cremated in the last year and destroyed beyond recognition, but hey, I suppose as long as kids have options, and/or enjoy the stuff, i guess that's what counts  :dodgy: Just a shame Thomas had to go down this way, not exactly dignified huh  :-/
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(11-28-2021, 04:10 AM)GreatGordonFan Wrote: This is my opinion

The current winner for worst T&F episode is Up up and away.
But I once had a thought: what would be the worst thomas episode imaginable? The worst thomas episode imaginable would be:
-A miller written,
-bwba style
-2d episode.
Those 3 things the fandom hates the most. So the worst episode would be all 3 of those things

And guess what? They literally made an episode with those 3 awful elements
"Nia's balloon blunder" is a reboot episode (2d element)  about Nia (bwba element) failing a simple task of delivering a balloon (miller-esque element) as it flies of with her.

The irony is hilarious!

So in your short text you mentioned:
  • worst T&F episode
  • worst thomas episode imaginable
  • worst thomas episode imaginable would be:
  • fandom hates the most
  • So the worst episode would be
  • those 3 awful elements

Your opinion is valuable & cherished. But can you (please) tell us about something that is not the worse, that you (and fandom) don't hate, and that is not awful? 

Could you walk on the bright side of life for a while?

Thank you. :)
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@Mister No,
Thanks for reminding me . I will try to be more positive ;)
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Hey, all. I understand this is a bit of a delicate thread with lots of opinions, and I’ve enjoyed reading them. I’ve learned some history about the series and what lifelong fans thoughts are on all the changes the series has gone through.

I’ve learned all I know of the series through my kids enjoyment of trains. I never grew up with Thomas, really. I just don’t really remember it from a young age. Either way, it’s been fun raising kids train obsessed.

That said, my youngest is 6 and he really likes this new series (along with all the previous ones). Maybe the youthful image of the trains helps him relate a little more to trains in moments? He’s been asking for some of these toys and I’ve not seen them at all in stores. I always keep an eye on what’s available online and in brick and mortar stores and nothing at all. Still all the previous trackmaster stuff. Just curious if any one here has come across them in person or available to purchase. Thanks for any info you may know.
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I mean, I'd say it's great he [your youngest] likes the new series, I suppose in the long run [as I see it] that's what counts, I'm an old-style die-hard so I'll stick with my tapes of old episodes, like my freinds, but hey, what do I know, I'm 23 and have no kids, and so I guess I don't have the advantage of youth on my side to see what the younger crowd sees in the new stuff  :D

So far, [and I am based in the UK so take that for what it's worth], some stuff based on AEG has started to appear in stores here, like Smyths [our version of big box toy stores like Toys 'R' Us], Argos [catalog-based department store], and The Entertainer [national toy chain], although it seems more a transitional phase between stocks of the old CG based stuff and the new AEG stuff - I only noticed this when popping in and out for discount doll accessories and stuff, as obviously I have to get all my Plarail/Tomica gear off the net since they don't sell Plarail in stores round these parts lol  :cool:

That said, as far as I know there are no plans to release Race for The Sodor Cup, or even any episodes of All Engines Go on DVD here, my freind speculating that the mixed reception to the series, especially here where Thomas started off and has been an integral part of many childhoods, might be to blame? I'd say that's a shame in some ways, as while I myself literally don't care if AEG makes it here or not, I don't speak for the whole country, and I can honestly believe that there may be kids out there who want it, but might not be able to get it, and that would honestly be a shame - Not everyone has Netflix et al, so I hate the idea that a whole series of Thomas might be shut off from it's target audience.

Anyway, maybe that's of help, I don't know  :angel:  It's always good to hear of new railway enthusiasts though, after all, many of us started with Thomas, so maybe this is just a new Thomas for a new generation, and i'm just old  :cool:
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